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FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: d4rkkn16ht ()
Date: October 20, 2008 10:57AM

1. Someone already mention about transparent full keyboard smiling smiley
    Or may be Half Screen but transparent Keyboard ?
    The Keyboard sometimes overlapping with the Input Box So we
    can't see what we are typing.

2. May be you can hide the bottom panel while typing with a button
    to unhide it.
    It will add some space to make the keyboard bigger.

3. Can you make all of the button skin able ?

4. The dictionary sometimes make me annoyed.
    Can you place a transparent suggestion box with side scrolling
    (instead of the current vertical scrolling suggestion box)
    ability on top of the Keyboard ?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/20/2008 11:11AM by d4rkkn16ht.

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Re: FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: tene ()
Date: October 20, 2008 12:59PM

3. exist in >0.15 that's one of the big change that justify the rewrite.

4. have you tried 0.15?

for 1 I fear it's technically not possible.

for 2, I'm thinking about an approach right, but it's not trivial to implement as it requires some deep change in pocketcm framework.

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Re: FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: d4rkkn16ht ()
Date: October 21, 2008 07:45AM

1. I know WM5 & WM6 doesn't support transparency,but there is a
    workaround to make it "transparent".
    Just Copy the background before drawing the output
    on the screen & then you can draw a transparent
    output with the copied screen as the background.
    Of course it won't work on animated background but
    at least it will show us what happen behind the SIP.
    I can call it a Pseudo Transparency. smiling smiley

2. Why don't you just add a function for a button to hide/unhide
    the bottom panel.
    Or may be you can just hide the bottom panel
    everytime the Keyboard appears & unhide the bottom
    panel when the keyboard is no longer visible.

4. The dictionary suggestion box still a bit annoying.
    it won't close even when i've moved the cursor on
    the next word.
    May be it will be even better if it shows more than
    1 word alternatives with bigger suggestion box.

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Re: FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: tene ()
Date: October 21, 2008 09:17AM

1. won't work, how do you get the bakground once the SIP is visible? you can't ask a specific windows to draw itself somewhere. (see WM_PRINT message documenation on MSDN)

2. because it would make lot of app unusable.

4 just stay pressed on the suggestion box.

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Re: FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: klmn ()
Date: October 21, 2008 02:23PM

Would it be possible to add some kind of mark (it might look whatever you want) next to or inside suggestion box when there are any alternative words found in dictionary? This way it could give users information in advance if finding alternative word by taping&holding on suggestion box is reasonable - currently (v0.14) user gets information that there is no word he is looking for in dictionary only after exploring full list of alternatives. What do you think?

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Re: FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: tene ()
Date: October 21, 2008 02:59PM

I agree, however I first have a couple of bugs to look at.

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Re: FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: d4rkkn16ht ()
Date: October 22, 2008 09:07AM

1. Can you detect when the SIP is going to pop up ?
    if you can,the you can get the screenshot just
    before the SIP pop up.
    Then draw the semi transparent Keyboard on top of
    the screenshot (just use only obscured part to make
    it faster to draw)
    FYI,I use this trick on Win98 & it works winking smiley
    Years ago,Linux also use this trick,but now it
    already fully support transparency (not pseudo
    transparency)

2. You can just hide the botom panel only when the SIP pop up,then
    unhide it when the SIP hidden.
    I notice that everytime we use SIP to type something
    we almost never use any other part of the bottom
    panel. winking smiley

4.What I mean is just like KLMN mean + more enhancements smiling smiley

Actually I'm a programmer too,but I've never create things on WM.
I don't know about WM API,but if it is just like WinAPI then
there will be another way instead of using WM_PRINT alone.

If you can make it semi transparent,it will help many user (they may donate more as well....including me) tongue sticking out smiley

FYI I've tried the 0.16 Alpha (I can't find any 0.15) & it is very buggy,so I replace it with the old 0.14 which I like better.

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Re: FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: tene ()
Date: October 22, 2008 11:34AM

1. then what you type something, it's not refreshed?

2. and how do you make the sip disappear then?

WM_PRINT isn't supported on mobile, WM_PAINT won't work reliably as it's not the same process, and it would also use way too much resources.

Regarding 0.16 it's alpha, but simply saying "it's buggy" won't make it more stable.

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Re: FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: d4rkkn16ht ()
Date: October 22, 2008 06:02PM

1.It can be refreshed IF you can get active window screenshot smiling smiley
    I may be slower than native transparency,but you can
    use only the changing part & leave the other
    un-refreshed.
    So,if there are some animation it will freeze.
    The main point here is to let us see what we are
    typing.

2. The SIP will disapear if :
    a. The input focus is not an EditBox.
    b. Provide a button to hide the SIP & unhide the
       bottom panel.

I know it is slower,but the image you use is VERY tiny in size.
The big part is only for the background.
The refreshed part is only a small edit box or a part when we type winking smiley
The user won't feel the time lag...
May be don't try fullscreen,just try half screen to make the SIP finger friendly.

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Re: FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: tene ()
Date: October 22, 2008 07:17PM

I really love when people start insisting winking smiley

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Re: FR All ver. of PCMK : Some suggestion for future release
Posted by: d4rkkn16ht ()
Date: October 24, 2008 07:59AM

I'm just suggesting with tips & tricks how to do the suggestion winking smiley

I see many people are happy with what you've done so far.
But I know that you can improve it even more
I just don't have time to create something just because I've already very busy...
...so all I can do is help someone who have the time to do it such as you winking smiley

You can do anything about PCMK,it's yours anyway smiling smiley

BTW,how many suggestions list can be accessed at a time?

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